61 (almost 62) orc hunter

Myrid · Senior Member

61 (almost 62) orc hunter

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

first of all, hit 70, finish all your 5-man crap,

and then <clears throat>

GET OUT OF YOUR LEVELING/5-MAN SPEC

seriously, you want to raid?

go 41-20-0 if you want to top the dps meters in crap gear

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cxf00gxRwuVoVVbRV

If you like to do more than just hit one button, these specs are nice:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cxbZVVfRVzhestIh

more than 600 agi (before spec) makes these also viable

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cxbZVVbRVZIu0MLsMhVbb

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cZVVbRVZcuh0tsMhVhio

Myrid · Senior Member

doesn't really answer my question.

-WHY- do those specs move ahead of marks? Is marks more burst dps?

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

serpent swiftness is a powerful talent, that's why

Myrid · Senior Member

Doing more dps as MM/Surv than I was as a BM. (granted i was using a mid range dps/tank pet)

Dunno, I guess I just enjoy the utility of Silence shot for caster pulls, scatter for those "oh snap" moments.

Shaved take a peak at my chr On undermine Kintok (can't get armory to load for some reason /sigh)

And I remember you speaking about a hunter "shot timer'?

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

quartz is the addon

honestly, if you're doing more dmg as MM/SV, you're not playing correctly.

a 41-20 BM/MM build is better until Tier 5, unless you're doing it wrong.

what speed was your weapon?

2.7 is about the right speed for a BM hunter, anything over 2.8 will kill your dps (1:1 rotation).

but..... at 2.8, the 1:1.5 rotation of MM or SV doesn't work

you need a 2.9 + to take advantage of MM or SV (2.9 with no haste other than quiver = 2.52)

you need a 2.7 - to take advantage of BM (with no haste other than quiver)

I'll take a look at your hunter in a sec

-- Edited by shaved at 22:46, 2007-12-13

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

nevermind armory is broken for me too

Myrid · Senior Member

I've played a healer so long this is starting to break my brain lol

Dunno, I just do a LOT more crits in that spec, and seems to to do some seriously higher damage (is BM "dps" counting the pet?)

Myrid · Senior Member

hmmm I must not be "Playing correctly".

I'm obviously not getting the shot rotation (I try and make sure a regular auto attack goes out before every "shot" I use). But beyond that I concentrate on trapping and bashing out dps in between traps/kites/ dear lord you dumbass shaman stop getting agro "threat stealing attempts"

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

found you...

yeah.... gear up while sticking to BM

learn to spam your shot macro (and it should just be auto/steady)

silence is great, but it's a pvp talent with marginal 5-man uses

Edit: copy my shot rotation macro out of another thread on these forums

-- Edited by shaved at 23:13, 2007-12-13

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

yes BM dps counts the pet, but if you remove pets from the equasion entirely, BM IS STILL MORE DPS

Myrid · Senior Member

I just don't see how shaved. I have more + dps talents in my current spec. WIth a dps pet I could understand.

You went survival and always seemed to top the meters, and from all indications it had less + damage modifiers than marks(?)

I'll respec after We're through our regular content and begin our 10 mans. (pvping my way to season one gear at the moment)

And I'll give it an honest shot.

Thanks for all the info.

~Myrid

btw if you need me for anything just send me an in-game mail and I'll be online for whenever.

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

Myrid wrote:

I just don't see how shaved. I have more + dps talents in my current spec. WIth a dps pet I could understand.

You went survival and always seemed to top the meters, and from all indications it had less + damage modifiers than marks(?)

I'll respec after We're through our regular content and begin our 10 mans. (pvping my way to season one gear at the moment)

And I'll give it an honest shot.

Thanks for all the info.

~Myrid

btw if you need me for anything just send me an in-game mail and I'll be online for whenever.

bro....

you're not understanding....

add up ALL the +damage talents in BOTH the survival and MM trees

YOU DON'T HIT 20%

20% haste = 20% increased damage

20% haste = 1:1 rotation = fewer spell shots per auto shot = more total shots in the same time frame = more damage

It's very simple. If you're not doing more damage in BM, you're not playing right and can't maintain (or don't understand) a 1:1 rotation.

the 1:1.5 of MM and SV:

1) is harder to maintain
2) costs more mana/time and mana/damage
3) hits less often

I'm not going to write any essays on hunter PvE dps.... just get in our vent one night and I'll explain it.