hit rating cap

Luvatmaction · Veteran Member

hit rating cap

Blorand · Veteran Member

If you know what the hit cap is why arent you at it? hmm??

Im not either but you can stfu..

I think we can agree that from this information I have provided Cake > Pie

Blorand · Veteran Member

I dont want to edit my poast so Im just gonna say log off in raid gear please...I have to make sure you arent at the cap yet to make me sound like less of an ass.
that is all

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

he's not at cap in raid gear.....

he has like 1000 +8 hit gems too......

scurb imo

Blorand · Veteran Member

you don't have hit capped eithe...oh youre not a rogue...gtfo our forums!

Another thing about hit. Don't sacrifice so many stats that you are at an insanely low attack power and crit percent. Find a comfortable spot for you. 270-290 seems to be what people go for. This also gives room for picking up one of those items with insane hit rating without going over and wasting it.
Hit rating IS the most important stat but there must be a reason why there is so very little on tier 5 right? ..right?!?

-- Edited by Blorand at 09:44, 2007-07-11

shaved · Shaved...Private Shaved

Blorand wrote:

Hit rating IS the most important stat but there must be a reason why there is so very little on tier 5 right? ..right?!?

There is. It's the same for hunters with +hit and Mp5. There's a "tier" of loot that has boat-loads of it, and the tier above it has almost none.

The reason for this is that Blizzard assumes that in the course of progression, a player will have access to lots of pieces at each "level" of post-70 gear. It's up to the player to decide which pieces will make the most effective combination.

My Beast Lord Gloves are better for me than the Tier 4. Why? Let's look.
BL
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27474

25 agi +16 from gems = 41 agi * 1.15 = 47.15 (1.15% crit, 47 AP)
+34 AP
________
Total dps stats:
81 AP
1.15% crit
0 Mp5
17 Int

T4
http://www.wowwiki.com/Demon_Stalker_Gauntlets

28 agi * 1.15 = 32.2 agi (0.7 % crit, 32 AP)
+58 AP
________
Total dps stats:
90 AP
0.7 crit
6 Mp5
24 Int

I have plenty of Mp5 and Int. 0.45 crit > 9 AP any day.

BL = Win

After T4, the "primary" stat focus comes back...

From Gruul
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28827

Very little "support/secondary" stats budgeted here. No Mp5, no +hit, potential for 40 agility with more AP than BL.

40 agi * 1.15 = 46 agi (1.08% crit, 46 AP) + 48 AP = 94 AP, > 1% crit

The point is.... Blizzard set TBC end-game up so that you'll get a bunch of overlapping pieces and have to decide which combinations work best, based on the stats you need.

I think I'll post something similar in the Hunter forums too.

Luvatmaction · Veteran Member

Blorand wrote:

If you know what the hit cap is why arent you at it? hmm??

Im not either but you can stfu..

I think we can agree that from this information I have provided Cake > Pie

why should i stfu? im trying to help people. some rogues dont know about the hit cap, so im telling em. and if u must know, in pve gear atm im at:

1442 AP
251 hit
27.24% crit

Blorand · Veteran Member

Im sorry Luv I still <3 you.

And yes you are trying to help the other rogues in the guild which is good..better if they would all check forums regularly.

Clearly you do better helping rogues than I do so I'll just stop posting non useful information

Blorand · Veteran Member

shaved wrote:

Blorand wrote:

Hit rating IS the most important stat but there must be a reason why there is so very little on tier 5 right? ..right?!?
There is. It's the same for hunters with +hit and Mp5. There's a "tier" of loot that has boat-loads of it, and the tier above it has almost none.

The reason for this is that Blizzard assumes that in the course of progression, a player will have access to lots of pieces at each "level" of post-70 gear. It's up to the player to decide which pieces will make the most effective combination.

My Beast Lord Gloves are better for me than the Tier 4. Why? Let's look.
BL
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27474

25 agi +16 from gems = 41 agi * 1.15 = 47.15 (1.15% crit, 47 AP)
+34 AP
________
Total dps stats:
81 AP
1.15% crit
0 Mp5
17 Int

T4
http://www.wowwiki.com/Demon_Stalker_Gauntlets

28 agi * 1.15 = 32.2 agi (0.7 % crit, 32 AP)
+58 AP
________
Total dps stats:
90 AP
0.7 crit
6 Mp5
24 Int

I have plenty of Mp5 and Int. 0.45 crit > 9 AP any day.

BL = Win

After T4, the "primary" stat focus comes back...

From Gruul
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28827

Very little "support/secondary" stats budgeted here. No Mp5, no +hit, potential for 40 agility with more AP than BL.
40 agi * 1.15 = 46 agi (1.08% crit, 46 AP) + 48 AP = 94 AP, > 1% crit

The point is.... Blizzard set TBC end-game up so that you'll get a bunch of overlapping pieces and have to decide which combinations work best, based on the stats you need.

I think I'll post something similar in the Hunter forums too.

Thank you Shaved. I was actually quite curious about why that was done to the gear. You cleared up the confusion quite nicely although I still disagree with the choice to put no hit rating on rogue tier five aside from I think the gloves.

Luvatmaction · Veteran Member

Blorand wrote:

Im sorry Luv I still <3 you.

And yes you are trying to help the other rogues in the guild which is good..better if they would all check forums regularly.

Clearly you do better helping rogues than I do so I'll just stop posting non useful information

wasnt mad...i luv u 2. just being a sarcastic ass. and ya, wat u said about mutilate is true. agree 100%...i was talking combat daggers

Luvatmaction · Veteran Member

not editing my post either =P...about sacrificing hit for other stats, i was just emphasizing the importance of hit. some rogues might hit 70 and hav only 100 or less hit so getting started focusing on it early is important...if u plan on raiding. honestly though, if my crit was at or around 20% i probly try to get that up first, a couple percent at least

Blorand · Veteran Member

Hey my crit is only slightly above 20% : (

Although you have the 5% crit advantage so it would be like me with 15%..sadly enough I've seen rogues with that kind of crit.."oh but they have really high hit at least right"...again, sadly no. Level 60 epics/blues ftl!

Also happy Luv is not mad at me biggrin

Commie · Zee Commie! >.<

shaved wrote:

Blorand wrote:

Hit rating IS the most important stat but there must be a reason why there is so very little on tier 5 right? ..right?!?
There is. It's the same for hunters with +hit and Mp5. There's a "tier" of loot that has boat-loads of it, and the tier above it has almost none.

The reason for this is that Blizzard assumes that in the course of progression, a player will have access to lots of pieces at each "level" of post-70 gear. It's up to the player to decide which pieces will make the most effective combination.

My Beast Lord Gloves are better for me than the Tier 4. Why? Let's look.
BL
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27474

25 agi +16 from gems = 41 agi * 1.15 = 47.15 (1.15% crit, 47 AP)
+34 AP
________
Total dps stats:
81 AP
1.15% crit
0 Mp5
17 Int

T4
http://www.wowwiki.com/Demon_Stalker_Gauntlets

28 agi * 1.15 = 32.2 agi (0.7 % crit, 32 AP)
+58 AP
________
Total dps stats:
90 AP
0.7 crit
6 Mp5
24 Int

I have plenty of Mp5 and Int. 0.45 crit > 9 AP any day.

BL = Win

After T4, the "primary" stat focus comes back...

From Gruul
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28827

Very little "support/secondary" stats budgeted here. No Mp5, no +hit, potential for 40 agility with more AP than BL.
40 agi * 1.15 = 46 agi (1.08% crit, 46 AP) + 48 AP = 94 AP, > 1% crit

The point is.... Blizzard set TBC end-game up so that you'll get a bunch of overlapping pieces and have to decide which combinations work best, based on the stats you need.

I think I'll post something similar in the Hunter forums too.

zOMG maphs

Blorand · Veteran Member

363 is the new hit rating cap after 2.3..

nerf us more imo

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