This is how its goin down now. I want to know YOUR thoughts. Dont give me other peoples thoughts. I want to hear what everyone is thinking about current happenings in the guild. And i do mean everything. I want a full report on my desk by this afternoon! Get to it!
Basically Its going as follows, people are not getting on when they should be for raids. I want everyone to stop everything they are doing and get their lazy asses onto group calendar immediately as well as make sure your signed up for a kara group if you wish to go.
If you have an issue with the guild or any of its happenings, SPEAK TO AN OFFICER!!!!!!!!!!! Thats why i assigned certain people positions along with myself. Im a nice guy, im not mean, i love to hear your thoughts, and i will work with you to solve any issues. I dont have officers here with me to help out for nothing. Please STOP talking to NON-officers about issues. Also you can post thoughts on forums or send me a message on here or in game mail.
Once again we had several members leave because they talked to a few non-officers who decided to make their own guild and took everyone with them that complained about a very simple to fix issue.
Once again, i want everyones thoughts on issues here. I want everyone giving their raid availability in the raid planner section about kara if you wish to go to kara. I want a Magtheridon run going soon, everyone who wishes to go get the hell off your ass and get the **** signed up like YESTERDAY!
COMMUNICATION IS KEY
If you dont VOICE your opinion how in the world will anyone know your upset? Im not a psychic as fun as that would be though. Post your thoughts. Im here for the long haul to help get this guild going and into the fun instances it deserves to be in.
GET POSTING
tell everyone to get signed up on here and get active. If you dont speak up to an officer then i dont feel sorry for you anymore. Get it done
In defense of Reconcile, we didn't talk to "Non-officers". And this is not osmething to be taken offensively or out of spite, hatred, what have you.
We've had this problem for a MONTH AND A HALF. We've talked to Areal. We've talked to Blorand. We've talked to you countless times Tenath...But...nothing ever got solved. That's the real reason is people came to us, the raid leaders running to kara, and a unanimous decision was made to leave because nothing picked up off the ground.
We've tried forcing people to get group calendar. it's so simple. It's easy to click a button that says "Attend" but people aren't doing it, and those people who want to go but aren't doing it are laying idly in the guild. For no reason. I did have a very long talk with Volwrath, so to all of you in Commission, we don't harbor any ill will towards you, nor do we look down on anyone or have any problems thereof with individuals. It is my feeling that we have left on good terms, and would like it to be viewed that way.
You guys discussed amongst yourselves, and you mentioned to tenath that you were frustrated.
You know, blorand talked to me a lot about mixing up the groups, and I offered what I could.
Patience was never your strong suit, seraphir. I'm not really upset you're gone, but Keeli....
You guys took him for a ride that had him spec resto (because you had no healers wtf? like you guys didn't have plenty without him?) and then sit waiting for a tank.
speaking of tanks... what happened to tholdin, halo, shirla? You guys had Shirla as an ALT for so long he gave up on G1 and asked to be an ALT for G2 again. At least with us, we'd take him if we were short people, regardelss of the role.
I payed shirla to respec constantly, and he did it.
I never saw that kind of flexibility with G1, maybe I'm out out of the loop, but it's clear you guys did more whining than problem solving.
You'll transfer off server, sera. We all know it.
Whether people are dumb enough to follow remains to be seen.
gg sera
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Keeli volunteered to go with us. And he can spec Feral doing so. We wer eonly ever able to have him Resto because of Tholdin to start. And then we had every other G1/non-G1 player who wasn't in Kara bitching about ****. Tenath's direction was to take these certain people, so out of....18 or so, only 10 could go in. See the math there Shaved?
18-10 = 8.
Tholdin is in school, Halo always had to leave early because Tenath demanded G1 go at 7-8 which we all like doing 6, but had to accommodate for certain people. Certain "favorites" if you will. We all liked doing 6, but were told not to.
We've been MORE flexible than you know. Than you can even assume. People LEFT because of you, to be honest. I will call you out on this because when we talk to officers, no one does anything. We constantly spoke to Tenath about how raids were going, about people wanting to go, and WE WERE CONSTANTLY being told who to take and when.
This wasn't about being flexible or not, this is about who was able to go, who didnt show up, **** not getting taken care of, etc....Say what you want, I enjoy the people who are here and not on bad terms with me, which apparently quite a few people aren't on bad terms. I explaine dthis to Volwrath, he can understand. And you can't. I think I'd rather go with Volwrath on this decision and uh...Not really pay attention to what you think, because you're wrong. In every aspect. So. gg Shaved. Afeitado XD QQ more
**Just on a side note, talk about me not being patient? That's why 12+ people whispered us constantly for Kara, people who deserved to go. How is a month and a half not patient eh? lol***
you say people have left commission because of me?
name them
while I have plenty of gripes with tenath and his copious amounts of patience, I understand his point of view: things don't happen overnight, and people have to take initiative in order to solve problems.
Picking people up for single runs is a great way to a) get new members, and b) actually go to kara when you're 2 people short.
G2 is short on heals? fine, we pick up a healer or have someone respec and pick up another dps.
G2 is short on tanks? fine, same drill
G2 is short on dps? fine, same drill
Did you guys have each other's phone numbers? email addresses? We do that in G2 to make sure we know who's showing up on a given night, even if we all have the calendar mod.
What I'm saying is this: There was a lot of complaining about G1 and lack of people/interest. G2 has gone through the same things, multiple times. We didn't quit or burn bridges. We stuck it out and improvised or made the best of the situation.
You want to build your own guild, that's fine. But if you had 12+ people whispering you for kara, why weren't you able to do it?
You and I weren't ever on bad terms until you decided to be an asshat on the forums, insult people who you don't know (like 2/3rds of G2 before you even met most of them), and play drama games with gquitting.
I even gave you the benefit of the doubt after you rejoined and hooked you up with my friends who could make things you needed. I was becoming your friend...
Then you decided to leave the guild in a fit of frustration after refusing to come to gruuls' for about 3 weeks. That refusal has set the raid alliance back and has made it tough for me to convince other commission members to participate.
The other guilds call us 'elitist' because of that attitude.
I'll reiterate:
Who left specifically because of me?
Your attitude stinks and has stunk for a while.
You and the rest of G1 didn't seem to have the leadership needed to effectively make do with less-than-ideal raid situations.
You caused more problems in this guild than your healing solved.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I was wrong.
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You've got to be online more often. I know this isn't possible, so I'll explain what should be done as a solution.
- Delegate more effectively.
- Assign clear roles.
- Make those roles redundant so that we've got overlap and oversight.
- Get the guild ranks organized so that there isn't the confusion we have today.
Here's why:
Areal is willing to be a leader, but he obviously has some maturity issues. Not major, but his level of patience and his perspective are not to the point where I'd want to be in a guild run entirely by him. He is capable of putting together groups, giving advice to group leaders, and leading runs. He is not capable of dealing with personality issues. No offense, areal. <3
Blorand is a great guy with fewer faults in his leadership than Areal, but not being in vent makes it difficult for him to lead anything effectively (just imo). Blo also has had some personality issues with guild members. Not that this is a deal-breaker, but it's important to realize that he can't run the guild or even a raid from the chat log. Solving personality issues is something that's just done more efficiently in vent.
Vol isn't online enough to even be inserted in this.
Wolly has the same problem as Vol, but also has the attention span and forethought of a drugged-out gnat. Not that I hate wolly, he just refuses to take ANYTHING seriously.
Commie has a lot of the qualities we need in a leader, but I honestly think he lacks the confidence to lead in a truly effective way. I'd love to see him be given more of a leadership role. But also, he's about to move, and that will change his schedule dramatically. We'll see how that affects things.
We have decent leaders. They just need to be given more guidance as to what to do in certain situations. The officers need to have plans, procedures, and a frame of reference from which to operate.
This is our biggest problem. I don't think that we really understand the commitment that leading a guild of this size requires. I include myself in this.
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Who left specifically because of me? (Hm, wonder if I should put Keeli up first. You never took him. And by the by, I did tell you he'd only join if he could run, you said "Yes yes get him". So I got him. Can't compensate? Wow, that sucks. He's a good guy after all. I'll keep a couple others anonymous becaus ethey don't really want to talk to you. If you'd like me to post it, whisper me buddy.)
Your attitude stinks and has stunk for a while. (And yours doesn't right now with these two posts? At least my reasons are valid, but go ahead and dispute this thought as you like to)
You and the rest of G1 didn't seem to have the leadership needed to effectively make do with less-than-ideal raid situations. (Less than ideal makes for wasted time/wipes/etc. You call Shadowsmages and Ecterun less than ideal? You have no idea buddy)
You caused more problems in this guild than your healing solved. (Hey, without me, G1 wouldn't be in a lot of places. The regular G1. If I'm not here, they either struggle tremendously or don't go at all, conceited as it seems it was true. When I fell asleep one night, I specifically remember us not being able to find healers. Strange.)
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I was wrong. (You're wrong in general guy)
You can say whatever you want and go back to things that have long since passed from what is "now". I've made my amends, I've helped the guild, I've gone to raids when I don't want to (I understand Areal's pain wow lol). And yes, I don't go to Gruul's because countless people are right. Why waste time and money? You stick with your scrubs.
Now for the rest of any further disputable topics I've listed, please save your breath. You're wrong Shaved. So very, very wrong. Why don't you actually pick these pieces of crap up (I refer to your problems and loud-spoken accusations) and sweep them under a rug. You're not the ultimatum of the guild, but you sure as hell like to think so imo.
You oculdn't possibly take into consideration and time spent for G1 and trying to make it a consistent, yet assembled and organized group all around. It's something you wouldn't know.
And then we had a thought "No one in the guild will do anything, so let's make this atmosphere fun for us. That's what this is about". I'm sorry you don't have fun trying to see my faults and accusing me of everything. Or maybe you do. But I've taken the time to speak with all commission members not having fun, and Darmanix provided the option to not waste time and to be proactive and productive.
You may say what you will, and say I haven't made amends for my post. I thought I was wrong about the people I had pointed out, but I obviously wasn't. There's the difference Shaved. You were wrong. I wasn't.
Still want to QQ more? I'd try and find an actual RP name (immature, maybe. But still tons of fun)
Now, my thoughts in this post are not directed to anyone but Shaved since he likes to speak out and have ideas. They obviously don't work. Just like when you ran Gruul's. That flopped.So many people in your Commission still whisper us today asking what they should do now. They question their stay, and this was not planned for them to do so. But for you Shaved, I've told them not to worry so much about you. You've been brought up a couple times in "Officer Chats" before.
I almost see a decline with your empty convictions and half-hearted insults. They do nothing for you or the other members in the guild. I however, have still offered my services to anyone in need, even in Gruul's without me rolling on anything. I told Volwrath this. But I don't need to be tehre where poor little Shaved can't do anything but try to bring me down.
Rethink your words carefully next time. They've done nothing here, and if mine have done the same, then we have both wasted our time. QQ more.
Tenath's direction was to take these certain people, so out of....18 or so, only 10 could go in. See the math there Shaved?
18-10 = 8.
Tholdin is in school, Halo always had to leave early because Tenath demanded G1 go at 7-8 which we all like doing 6, but had to accommodate for certain people. Certain "favorites" if you will. We all liked doing 6, but were told not to.
So you're telling me that Tenath told you to take certain people, and those people didn't show up.
And then even though you had lots of people whispering you to go to kara, you didn't invite them and didn't go because they weren't on Tenath's favorite list?
And you quit because you weren't doing kara...
And you say you were being flexible? Ha!
BRING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLINE AND WANT TO GO, DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES LATER!
I do this all the time. You guys were doing it too (Junkjulio and Soulutionary to be specific). You were just frustrated with bringing Shadowsmages and other 'scrubs' and failing because they aren't as elite as you.
G2 gets frustrated too. We have all kinds of personality issues and all kinds of scrubbery getting raid spots because regulars aren't online.
Ask me about Nightshift....
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But honestly now...Shaved why don't you find a way to become complacent with the fact that people join and leave guilds? Yes, it sucks sometimes, under certain circumstances. But there's no reason not to move on. Areal has already said himself that I can be replaced. May have been long ago but it still holds true.
Why don't you look to the future, and what you can do for your guild instead of throwing your energy to pointless conversations and debates? Are you really that sad that people have left and that you are pointing a finger at me that this has been my little coup? It really wasn't.
It makes me sad that you and I can't be friends. In most cases. I'm sure you don't feel the same way but, oh, again...The differences between you and I.
Again you miss the point, Shaved. As you always have. And I can't make you understand. No one can. 12+ people don't whisper at once, you dult.
We never go because, as last time, we had 4/10 online. We want to pug 6 people? Wow. You, sir, are stupid. I'm sorry. 'tis true.
Oh and the reason I quit wasn't because of Kara. I don't need to go. lawlz at youuu.. (yes, I'm showing immaturity everyone because I have to get on Shaved's level and make some sort of response.)
How about you handle the group make up of what G1 could consist of? Would you do me that favor? Probably not. Just a thought I had. You seem to know much. Very much indeed. I'm surprised with your talkings to Blorand and you offering what you could, G1 still couldnt go because of a "fair" lack of players being on.
btw, I wish you'd reply faster so I can sort through your problems with me. Well, they aren't my problems, actually. They are yours. Which makes me feel better. I like not having problems, and feel sorry for those who do.
Seraphir wrote: First: Who left specifically because of me? (Hm, wonder if I should put Keeli up first. You never took him. And by the by, I did tell you he'd only join if he could run, you said "Yes yes get him". So I got him. Can't compensate? Wow, that sucks. He's a good guy after all. I'll keep a couple others anonymous becaus ethey don't really want to talk to you. If you'd like me to post it, whisper me buddy.) ______________________________________________
I told you to get him. I wanted him to be in G2. Then I was approached about G1 needing him. I said go for it. I never heard about it again. I whispered him when I got on last night and your story differs greatly from his.
He seemed like he felt guilty and maybe a little foolish for listening to you and darm. I told him good luck, but also to be wary of you and your mood swings.
Seraphir wrote:
Your attitude stinks and has stunk for a while. (And yours doesn't right now with these two posts? At least my reasons are valid, but go ahead and dispute this thought as you like to)
Sera, you and I have had issues before, and I'm obviously pissed with you for your seemingly limitless supply of temper tantrums.
Yeah, of course my attitude is going to stink today; I'm responding to your asinine explanation of a stupid move that hurt more people than it helped.
Seraphir wrote:
You and the rest of G1 didn't seem to have the leadership needed to effectively make do with less-than-ideal raid situations. (Less than ideal makes for wasted time/wipes/etc. You call Shadowsmages and Ecterun less than ideal? You have no idea buddy)
I get it. Those guys weren't ready. After 1-shotting everything in kara for over a month, we wiped on moroes and couldn't down opera three weeks ago. Two weeks ago, we had similar problems.
This week, I played a healer (ace). So did Lane (myrid) because we didn't have enough regular healers online.
We find solutions. We make do. You guys seemed to have a lot less tenacity than I feel is required for progression.
Seraphir wrote:
You caused more problems in this guild than your healing solved. (Hey, without me, G1 wouldn't be in a lot of places. The regular G1. If I'm not here, they either struggle tremendously or don't go at all, conceited as it seems it was true. When I fell asleep one night, I specifically remember us not being able to find healers. Strange.)
It's no picnic when I don't show up for G2... wait, I never missed a run. Nevermind. I call and tell the others that I'll be late and I designate who will put the group together and who will lead it until I get online.
I'm not in charge of Areal or anyone else for that matter. I'm not responsible for you guys not having the people you need. But according to you, you had everyone you needed, but you were tied to certain people and times by Tenath. You cite this multiple times as the reason you left.
You are blaming others for your lack of leadership skills. Sad. When Tenath asks or requests something from me that I think is a bad idea, we talk about it until we find a solution.
Your drama has consumed more time and effort in this guild than has any indiscretion or overstatement on my part.
I show up for kara. I don't even take gear I need half the time until other people have it. The mail chest off nightbane for example has dropped twice now.
That piece would increase my dps by a lot, but it would reduce the threat contributions I give Furin via Expose Weakness (increasing dps threshholds along with the damage bonus I provide the raid).
First one I gave to Mouse. Second one went to Epici. I'm still wearing a crafted blue.
I'm a jerk, but I'm fair. I'm calculating. I don't let my ego get in the way of good decisions.
I know when it's ok to let out anger and when it will do nothing but hurt people.
You don't seem to.
Seraphir wrote:
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I was wrong. (You're wrong in general guy)
I love blanket statements with little or no actual meaning to them.
You think I'm wrong in general? wtf does that even mean?
Seraphir wrote:
You can say whatever you want and go back to things that have long since passed from what is "now". I've made my amends, I've helped the guild, I've gone to raids when I don't want to (I understand Areal's pain wow lol). And yes, I don't go to Gruul's because countless people are right. Why waste time and money? You stick with your scrubs.
We have had very solid gear bechmarks in place for months. You don't show up, so you don't know.
I've seen you there twice. That happens to be the same number of Gruul's raids I missed until this wed, bringing my total missed raids to 3 (count them, 1, 2, 3).
Seraphir wrote:
Why don't you actually pick these pieces of crap up (I refer to your problems and loud-spoken accusations) and sweep them under a rug. You're not the ultimatum of the guild, but you sure as hell like to think so imo.
You think I want to run this guild? Not at all. I step up and help the guild EVERY DAY. I do it because I love building things with friends.
You think I'm an ass? Lots of people say it. Their next sentence is often to the effect of, "but I respect that, and sometimes people need to hear what you say."
Seraphir wrote:
You oculdn't possibly take into consideration and time spent for G1 and trying to make it a consistent, yet assembled and organized group all around. It's something you wouldn't know.
I know what it takes. I know that being a leader means you never give up. I also know that it's really frustrating to do.
I've made copious mistakes since stepping up to the plate as a guild officer. I admit them.
This is why my douchebaggery is tolerated. I learn from it.
Yours is not because it's the same crap over and over.
Seraphir wrote:
Now, my thoughts in this post are not directed to anyone but Shaved since he likes to speak out and have ideas. They obviously don't work. Just like when you ran Gruul's. That flopped.So many people in your Commission still whisper us today asking what they should do now. They question their stay, and this was not planned for them to do so. But for you Shaved, I've told them not to worry so much about you. You've been brought up a couple times in "Officer Chats" before.
I'm glad people discuss me. I want people to address their concers with me. As arrogant as I come across, I can be the most humble guy you've ever met.
Ask anyone in G2 who has addressed an issue with my leadership. I listen.
I've run Gruul three times. We killed Maulgar after 2 attempts once, even with scrubs. Once I couldn't get people because a lot of commission (you included) refused to go based on past experience with the raid alliance, and we didn't have karma loaded, so noone else wanted to come. One time, we had problems with the mage tank because arc wasn't online. That's the three.
When did you step up and lead it?
-- Edited by shaved at 01:10, 2007-08-25
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Why is it so important that you point your finger at me? Where's Lane now? Where's Darmanix? Was it not the unanimous decision of quite a few that had decided to leave? Yet I get caught speaking on their behalf.
Volwrath is complacent with the idea of me not being around, and the decision that quite a few have left. I feel that Volwrath does know why being in similar situations in past times. But that is something you can't understand Shaved. This was a very calm, diplomatic decision. Not a "mood swing". I mentioned nothing in gchat before leaving. I made a mature decision to go have fun.
It wasn't me giving up, it was me going with the people I like dplaying with most because we all had a hand in the decision to do so. If that makes you unhappy Shaved, then I apologize, but I'm not here to please you.
What is your true issue with me? Summarize it for me so I kno whow best to answer or confront your concerns. Though it may not matter now, you will always have the last word regardless I see. So I won't bother addressing previous concerns, but your main concern with me now.
Why did it make you hate me so much that I left and didn't give a reason why? I said nothing as to avoid drama, and then I explained why we had made such decisions. This decision to leave wa sneither righ tnor wrong, because its just fact that people leave. If it inconveniences you, then again I apologize, but I'm not here for you.
See how diplomatic I'm being? I do try my hardest in this case, now, because I will always fail to understand you, because you can never know my understanding. And thus I will follow like a dog chasing his tail to find reason. Why don't you let me know what it is that really pisses you off? That makes you angry that we had left. Aren't you glad now that we are so you don't have to deal with this. Or are you upset that these are players who can no longer help YOU advance? We've all given our best efforts, and I'm sorry if not everyone is exactly like you but you've already said there are so many different personality issues in G2 that I think you understand this concept. What would you have seen me do differently? I wasn't the raid leader, tholdin and Darmanix were. Never was I appointed the decision.
Would I have asked for it? Maybe. I have a lot going on in real life as many of us do, especially Tenath. Does that make it a crime to make a decision to take a step back into another guild? No. Only in your eyes. If people were hurt by our decisions, they would tell us. The ones who have, came with us.
It's a rather weak appproach that out of...however many people we have active in commission, you continually try to find something to dispute with me. And again this wa snothing told in guild chat or over vent, but yet you say this is a mood swing of mine. It clearly isn't. No one knew. But it was something we all decided together, and I went with it. Whether you agree or not, or whether it affects you or not, thats not the point. The point is this has absolutely nothing to do with you or anyone else. This decision is all about said effected people who came with us.
But still, tell me how wrong I am. Please do because it is a wasted motion on your part. I would never come back of course, and I hope that pleases the majority. That's what I aim for is to make sure people have fun in this game. That's all it is but it shows poor character more often than not from my end apparently. But you don't know me. At all. You don't need to know me. You can say whatever you want, make snide comments, it doesn't matter Shaved. You will always be you and no one else of ocurse, obviously, nothing will change that and nothing will change your thinking or your thoughts on this situation. I feel sorry for you but at the same time I don't. I dont need to because I'm not here fo ryou or anyone else besides the people I have fun with. That's all I need to know and that's all I need to go by.
The fact here is Seraphir left the guild multiple times and each time has been invited back by Tenath. Since Tenath is our gm, and from what I am guessing, his reason being seraphir is extremely well geared and good skilled priest, it is worth it to do whatever it takes to keep seraphir in the guild.
And Tenath, each time your decision was made, I tried to understand you reasons and welcome seraphir back with open arms. I would and have treated seraphir like a buddie and guildie each time he was back for the simple reason that if our gm wants someone this bad in our guild, we ought to make the effort too.
But as with all things, Enough is Enough. For whatever reason unknown to me (connection was dead for few days) Seraphir has left the guild again. As a class officer and OG of group1, this was one too many gquits. How are we building a better guild by showing new recruits each week that our priest officer just quits and gets invited back repeatedly? Tenath, this is the last time Seraphir gets to leave the Commission. I am saying this as policy recommendation as the guild Consiliare, because if Seraphir is invited back again, a lot of people will be very unhappy with the leadership of this guild.
Tenath you know i'd di you over a rezzer but this has really been going on for too much. Let's just end it and start from there, sounds good?
and serahpir, You gquitted, again, for whatever reason it matters not to me. As far as I am concerned you are just some dude that plays on the server now. Welcome to the commission forums.
Magni's Beard! Ye still yappin'? Ye know I ain't never liked ye none anyway. So we're clear on that. I'm sad to see Lane go, but yer not gonna be missed one bit. I jus hope when ye come crawlin' back Tenath don't take pity on ye an realizes yer more trouble'n yer worth.
Good luck with yer new guild. I don't hate the lot o'ye fer leavin'. Ye got problems an I can respect that ye did what ye did. But ye come round here barkin' fer attention an actin' like yer the only priest in the realms an yer more important than anyone else in the guild... or worse that we're even carin' what it is ye got to say... an I'm done listenin' to yer cryin'. Steer clear o'me vent channel again an I got no problems with ye. Jus let it go an be gone, I say.
Well, i suppose clarifying would be in order. This was not meant to be a back and back player bashing and im not pleased by that.
SO... moving on.
THIS IS WHAT THE THREAD IS FOR
I want to hear your thoughts on guild issues without bashing eachother. Such as what are we doing or not doing right?
Are we not running events that are interesting? Do we need more healers? More good players? More Officers? Officers with different personalities?
Thats the kind of thoughts im looking for. Its good to get things off your chest yes. So i see some people did not like my choice in bringing Seraphir back a few times, but truth is... i like the guy. I enjoy running with seraphir and talking with him. But im also getting sick of gquits.
Im not going to let this guild get destroyed over stupid issues. Sera and Darm good luck with your guild. keep in contact with me at the least.
So, my thoughts are if you want to raid then get your scrub but involved. Dont sit around and get mad for not going, get interactive.. go get some better gear when not in kara or a raid. Bust your ass to know your class and get the spec needed. If someone gets picked over you, make yourself better to be better than them and get taken the next time. This is what raiding is about. Better yourself when you can to be better than the guy next to you. Earn your keep with a raid.
Now lets hear more thoughts on current happenings and future events. What do you thinks going on around here?
Always a good idea. I would like to find out who is actually interested in such a thing. Hopefully gruuls goes well tonight. and if not, perhaps we can try it tomorrow night or something. especially if maulgar gets dropped.. muahahahha.. ninja the instance! lol
I also want to know why people feel it important to talk to everyone except officers about certain issues. It bothers me a great deal as i go out of my way to make time for people to speak with me about issues.
Also need to have some meetings soon to get everyone on the same page as well as designate officers roles and what they should and should not be doing. fun fun stuff!
We have the healers to progress, hell g-2 can field 4 solid healers by itself.
We have the skilled classes, it simply comes down to organization tenath.
Set a date. Make it known, MAKE IT EXCITING.
Stop askin for opinions (Imo :P) and get it done.
People follow leaders becaue they lead.
So lead us,
And We'll follow.
(yes progression is that simple, it was in the days of 40 mans it can be again in the days of silly 10-25 mans, I led the 2nd guild into MC on this server, we weren't ready, we weren't geared, yet we had it on farm status inside of 2 weeks. Because I am an ass and I made them do it hehe)
It really boils down to, we do it or we don't heh.
G-2 was formed by a pissant of a hunter who had a grumpy dwarf yell at us.
We wiped and wiped and eventually conquered and won. G-2 is a group of friends and comrades now who can one shot anything in karazahn (depending on how sleepy their healers are lol)
Also, even though my main is no longer in The Commission, I can still pop on tiaan, myrid, whoever is needed for G2 shaved. I still love the guild, and don't want them to suffer a lack of healing, if it's needed.
Well honestly, it doesn't even matter anymore. I'm made a mistake, I'm guildless, and noone returns my tells.
I had thought I'd left the guild on good terms, but I guess I was wrong.
I don't play for this drama, and I'm not enjoying my time on WoW because of some tells I've gotten from some of the Commission members, so this account will be deleted and closed as soon as this month is up, so I'm not tempted in the future to even come back.
Yeah Lane....Forgiveness isn't something easily found in this game. As dumb as it can be to argue. But I stand by my decision, and whatever you decide to do, you should stand by that too. I think that goes for everyone in Commission. Don't take my advice, as if it was mine. It's common sense. You don't need people to help you make decisions. I'm happy with mine, be happy with what you decide to do Lane, and the same goes for everyone else in Commission. Sad to see Darm leave on such short notice and in that manner nonetheless. Good guy, so are you Lane, Tenath, Areal, Volwrath, Blorand, etc...list goes on if i misse dyou.
